6 Meter APRS Lives

June 21, 2018

Update:  Dale N0KQX has joined in from SW Kansas as of June 24th. N0KQX-6 has already been heard several times at K4KPN-4 in KY.  The K7BC-6 Virginia I-gate appears offline since the 21st. A few more I-gates on frequency would be nice. I believe I can enable gating on K4KPN-4’s 6m port (ah the flexibility of BPQ32) without impacting general packet operations on that port. I plan to test that option on my next trip back thru 4-land.

It’s not every day you hear and “digi” off the 50 MHz APRS digipeater at the Pentagon.


Map showing location of the K4AF-6 six meter digipeater at the Pentagon. I believe this is part of the MARS radio station located there. Frequency is 50.620 MHz using 1200 baud AFSK packet.


June 19th 2018 a nice strong opening into NE Virginia revealed that the 50.6200 MHz 1200 baud 6 meter APRS and long time 6m packet “calling” frequency still has some action on it.


The monitor for the 6m (50.620 1.2k) and 10m packet/robust packet ports at the K4KPN-4 N. Kentucky node. K4AF-6 is at the Pentagon. K7BC-6 is a few miles to the SW. Both are just over 400 miles away. Opening was very brief. June 20th would produce a stronger opening. Times are UTC.


On June 20th things would liven up even more with the Conway AR node “CON50” W5AUU-6 (likely bleed-over from 50.615 MHz) coming in. There was also an extended and strong e-skip opening to Wash DC with APRS packets bouncing around and being digipeated like it was 2m APRS at times. Several K4KPN-4’s beacons were getting digipeated and I-gated into APRS-IS via K7BC-6 in Springfield VA.



The June 20th 6 meter APRS opening into the Wash DC area lasted for over an hour. K4AF-6 was even audible at times on a HT (Yaesu VX-8DR) setting on my desk. Gotta love the Magic Band of 50 MHz!

Distances involved where about 410 miles from Kentucky to DC. So I wouldn’t call it really short skip, but definitely shorter than normal. General rule of thumb is when 6 meter e-skip shortens up to 250-300 miles then it’s time to start checking 144 MHz for possible e-skip on that band.

Good to see there is still some life on 6m APRS. Band openings can make things interesting, even on VHF packet. Also nice to see there is some packet radio gear at the Pentagon MARS / AR station(s).

K4KPN-4’s 10m port beacons every 10 minutes and the 6m port beacons every 5 minutes with APRS compatible beacons to help detect band openings. The 50.620 MHz 1200 baud port on K4KPN-4 also supports WIDE1-1 digipeating in addition to normal packet radio connects.




SCS Tracker DSP TNC Firmware v1.7F Available

June 19, 2018

SCS Tracker DSP packet radio TNC firmware version 1.7F is now available for download from the Files section of the Robust Packet Yahoo Group or via the the beta firmware option in the SCSupdate program.

An easily overlooked source code formatting error snuck into a subroutine portion of the code in a way that didn’t throw any errors when compiled. This impacted the HDLC state machine’s ability to properly track multiple incoming frames. This is the bug detailed in some of my recent RP Group postings.

While this should be considered “beta” firmware for now, it appears to have solved the above problem. My initial testing is showing the problem resolved. If you use your Tracker DSP TNC for VHF/UHF packet then you should strongly consider installing this free firmware update.

NOTE: I have SCS looking into another packet mode bug that is on the transmission side of things. The TNC will never send more than 2 frames regardless of MAXFRAME settings. This may be a Winlink Express bug and more testing is needed. This would generally only impact 9600 baud users with degraded upload speeds.

Do note that RPR is hard coded to limit maxframe to 2 by design. This issue does not impact RP mode.

My thanks to John KX4O of VAPN for his help and testing.

Thanks to SCS for their excellent ongoing support and desire to further improve the Tracker DSP TNC for both ARPS and non-APRS uses.


K4KPN BBS & RMS Gateway are Available

June 9, 2018

KYPN would like to announce the full availability of the KYPN Dry Ridge BPQ32 based packet radio site as of June 9, 2018.

The following packet radio applications are available:

K4KPN-1    BBS
K4KPN-4    Node
K4KPN-13  Chat/Conference Server
K4KPN-14  RMS Gateway

The above packet radio applications are normally available 24x7x365 to appropriately licensed amateur radio operators on the following frequencies/modes:

441.0500 MHz 9600 baud *
145.6900 MHz 1200 baud
223.6600 MHz 1200 baud *
28.1480 MHz USB dial, 28.1495 CF, Robust Packet “NET10R” *
50.6200 MHz 1200 baud **
* High availability, primary port.
** Dual-use port, both general use & 6m APRS WIDE1-1 Digi

All 5 bands and 3 modes are published to the Winlink channel listing.

Recommended user software:

KYPN recommends Outpost Packet Message Manager version for BBS access. Full installer is available for download here.

KYPN recommends Winlink Express v1.5.12.0 or newer for RMS access. Available for download from here.

More details can be found on the K4KPN-1 packet BBS under messages #1 thru 8.

More details in future blog posts and the work in progress draft KYPN System FAQ.


The KYPN team.

K4KPN System FAQ

June 1, 2018

This is a work-in-progress….

FAQ #1 – Any other HF bands than 10 meters?

Answer:  Not at this time. We may add 80/40 meters in the future, but that is a big maybe at this time.


FAQ #2 – Why only 10 meters, why not a lower band?

Answer:  The 10 meter port’s primary purpose is to provide an additional coverage option for local fringe locations that even the 6 meter 1200 baud packet port struggles with due to noise/distance etc. Remember 28 MHz behaves very much like 30 MHz VHF-Low with propagation characteristics well suited to the hills and valleys common to our coverage area.

We are not offering lower bands at this time due to the main HF antenna the site is dedicated to remote HF/VHF station use and that takes priority for now.


FAQ #3 – Why Robust Packet, why not one of the soundcard modes?

Answer:  We have not found soundcard modems to be reliable enough for 24x7x365 use at a remote site. It is one thing if the system is down in your basement or over in the corner of your hamshack, but modem evaluation criteria changes when the system is miles away at a tower site. We also wanted a mode/modem that was suitable for BOTH interactive use with packet applications (BBS, Chat server, etc) and message transfers.

Robust Packet is hardware modem based and gives us an excellent mode for interactive access and plenty of message transfer speed for our particular needs. It also works well with weak noisy signals, has considerable immunity to multi-path, and often works where 6 meter AFSK packet will not.


FAQ #4 – Is DX use of the  6 or 10 meter ports allowed?

Answer:  Yes, but please yield to any local users on QRG.  The 10 meter port beacons every 10 minutes to help detect band openings.

The 6 meter port beacons an APRS compatible beacon every 5 minutes to help detect band openings. The 6m port also functions as a WIDE1-1 APRS digipeater.


FAQ #5 – What is WYJAC, BBSJAC, etc?

Answer:  WYJAC / BBSJAC is a test/dev node and BBS at my Wyoming QTH. The Dry Ridge site is linked to it thus you’ll see those nodes/applications showing at times. Please do not leave messages on the WA4ZKO-1 BBS, again it is a test BBS for now.  Please leave all messages on K4KPN-1 (netrom alias BBSNKY) unless instructed to do otherwise.


FAQ #6 – Is telnet access available?

Answer:  Yes, but it will be considered on a case by case basis. Those within VHF/UHF range will be required to have a functional “RF” packet station before telnet access will be considered. The goal of the packet BBS is to provide a RF only messaging system not breed laziness and apathy towards having RF access.

Yes having a Winlink RMS gateway on the system kind of conflicts with the above LOL. It is secondary to the conventional packet systems. Trust me, it took some convincing for me to even offer it, especially on VHF/UHF.

The K4KPN-14 Winlink gateway is on “probation” as far as I’m concerned. If it’s not used then it will eventually be turned off. If it becomes a PITA in terms of admin or abuse then it will be turned off. Many said they wanted it, now we’ll see if that was just talk and how it will be used 😉
FAQ #7 – Does the KYPN systems have backup power?

Answer:  The K4KPN-10 HF RP APRS I-Gate/Digi is at a secure tower site with considerable commercial grade backup power on stand-by.

The K4KPN-1 K4KPN-4 K4KPN-13 K4KPN-14 systems are at another private tower site near Jonesville. This site has short term battery bank backup in place to allow it to stay online till manual transfer to an on-site generator.

The K4KPN-15 2m APRS I-Gate/Digi is located in Williamstown. The station has very limited (few minutes) battery backup. Normally it will be shut down during an extended power outage. It should NOT be counted upon for emergency uses.


To be continued….